Any Church Drummers here?

i'm aiming to play for my church which is Lighthouse Evangelism (kinda big church with 2 branches) but the standard is really high..

what's more, i've only been learning for 3months plus and haha..i'm no where near good enough..

hoping to get a set soon to practise but hopefully my neighbours wont complain..i've always wanted to play for the church so, any advice on how to improve fast? thanks alot!
 
Practising a lot is important, but what's more important is practising properly. In my opinion, you should go and get yourself a good drum instructor who will be able to guide you with regards to the aspect of 'practising properly'.

Some of my personal suggestions are:

1) Work on some common pop / rock beats and fill ins as modern church music is more along that genre.

2) Make sure you can keep steady tempo. Always practise to a metronome. Its good to count along too.

3) Get some Christian music tracks into your IPOD, and listen to it whenever you have the chance. Pay attention to what the drummer is doing and try to emulate the grooves and fills during your practise. Its also good to play along to the songs.

4) Find opportunities to play along with some of your church band mates. The experience would help you to flow and play together with real musicians and to hone that element of spontaneity that cannot come by playing with tracks and recordings.

5) Have a good attitude. You should always be playing to complement the band and to do what the band leader wants. Always be open to criticism and suggestions from other band members and work on ironing out whatever issues they may have with your drumming. More importantly, don't get discouraged and give up. Drumming is a long journey and none of us can say we have 'arrived'.
 
thanks Bor =)

i'll heed your advice..i'm taking lessons from an established instructor who taught at Yamaha before..but i've not gone for an audition yet cuz i'm not good enough haha..gotta play for about a yr or so more i guess..and to get constant practise is why i want to get a set of my own soon..i'm 18 and still studying so i dont have much time to go to the studio to practise much..so..i'll just try my best and follow all the advice from you guys =) thanks!

rock on with your drumming too!
 
Praise God that people are having the passion to play for Him and for His glory!

I'm a drummer for my church too (ELBC - Eternal Life Baptist Church) in Whampoa area. Really small church with congregation of 50+50= 100+ (2 services).

We should all unite in Christ and not let our differences lead to meaning quarrels!
Different people and churches just have different styles of worship. God is pleased as long as we are playing with our heart and trying our best.

We should see the good instruments as testimonies of God's blessings, and not criticise w/o finding out more 1st. Sometimes it's not the church which buy but members who sponsor.

My church uses a humble 1990s Pearl forum with original skins till now but it still sounds great with periodic maintenance. I'm also trying to push for higher models but just wait for God's timing lah huh. The money should always to used to help poorer people around the world 1st. The extras then as blessings!



My own experience of drumming in church:

1. all the above advice are all valuable advice!

2. Just to add: we need to KNOW exactly what are we playing in relation to the music. Especially in songs where the singing starts before beat 1. We need to end earlier for the singers to come in easier for e.g.

3. Generally I try to play less in worship
(actually good excuse for a lousy and uncreative drummer like me.. ha)
cause i feel it will disturb the flow of music, esp when ppl are trying to focus and sing out the lyrics and relate it to themselves etc.

But still playing more doesn't = not worship!
As stated I really feel different ppl and churches may have very different worship styles.
But what I dun want is to bring the attention to urself instead of God.
(although sometimes really bo bian one. They want to see u also no choice mah right?)

God bless us all!

We should all meet up!
Call me!
Asaph (90298259) (bukit batok west)
 
It's not just playing,but.........

BRINGING BACK THE BEAT - Drums and percussion

by Andrew Ironside
In the next seven issues of Outreach Magazine, we will look at various aspects of the worship team - both from the perspective of a music director and the involved singer/musician. This will include topics such as: working with the music directors, bass players, keyboard players, guitarists, brass players and sections, the psalmists role and song leaders. Part one of this series will be the music director's/song leader's role in working with the drummer.

For too long the drummer in church music teams has been shunned into being seen and not heard, or sometimes not being seen at all. We've padded his kit with blankets and gaffer tape so it sounds like he is playing on his mother's Tupperware, or we take his kit away completely and give him a set of electronic pads so that he can't really be heard.

Music directors, song leaders and pastors are be-ginning to realise the necessity for strong, anointed, powerful drumming in worship services. Notice that I didn't say loud, but strong. There is a new sound that God is releasing into our worship which carries "strength"!

Drummers need to play with sensitivity and a worshipful expression, but also with "attitude". They must know when to play strongly, when to play loud and when to play as gently as a dove.

There are three areas that I want to encourage drummers in:

Groove - Timing and groove are everything for drummers. Getting the right tempo, the right feel to the song is their prime responsibility. So many drummers place more emphasis on tills, spills and trills, but cannot keep good timing and "feel" in the songs. Every drummer must spend several hours a week practicing with headphones to a drum machine, metronome or CDs, developing unstoppable groove and impeccable timing, keeping their playing simple and solid rather than busy and messy.

Intimacy with God -The drummer's walk with God is evident in their playing. A drummer needs to be a worshipper, not just a musician. When he/she plays out of their spirit rather than their soul, it takes the worship to a much higher level. If they play out of a negative attitude it pulls the song back into a negative attitude, even though the song may be a positive one. If the drummer plays on the back beat or slightly lagging in the feel or the groove, the same scenario will apply.

Relationship - It is essential that the music director/song leader build a good relationship with the drummer. If there are misunderstandings the music team will be weakened and your effectiveness in a worship service will be hindered. If you don't get along with your drummer, take time to get to know them a little more. Take your drummer out for coffee or Hungry Jacks once in a while -build a friendship.

I thank God for Scott Trembath and the relationship God has given us. We have worked on being friends and keeping the communication channels open. It makes it much easier to flow together in a meeting. Scott doesn't require 15 different hand signals during a song service; he knows and feels where I am going as a leader in a service because he knows me; his faith and attitude are with me 100%. It is fun to lead worship when you have a team who are your friends working and ministering with you!

The drummer's perspective - Scott Trembath


The drummer has an important role to play in a worship team because the drums are so prominent. He/she can make or break a song service. In my early years of drumming I was told that the drums were of the devil, or "you're just playing loud", or "you're just an entertainer". The best one I ever heard was, "You are just a drummer"! Not so! Drummers are able ministers of the Gospel, for God has anointed us to preach the Good News. Your playing is not just a series of rhythms, but a message, a sharp definite sound which pierces the spirit realm and releases the anointing of God. At times, it's hard enough waging war against the powers and principalities of the air. We shouldn't be warring against each other. There needs to be a friendship between you and the song leader. As you get to know the song leader on a personal level, you get to know where the song leader is taking the worship services.

God is a God of order, and we need to get behind our song leaders and serve them with all the enthusiasm and support that we can. "Where there is unity God commands a blessing" (Psalm 133: 1). As drummers, we must learn to be full on worshippers. How can we expect to lead people in worship if we don't worship God ourselves? Endeavour to make sure your heart is right before you play, that you haven't got a bad attitude with the song leader or anyone else in the band. Some practical hints on working with song leaders are:

Arrive early -allow enough time to set up, tune up and become familiar with what songs the song leader has chosen.
Watch for signals - there may not be many hand signals, they might use voice prompts or movement with the head or eyes. The greater relationship you have with your song leader, the greater the understanding and flowing together you will have in a meeting.
Stay in time - practice with some kind of metronome (every member of the team should practice with one).
No more gaps - it's a term I learnt while ministering with Andrew Ironside in Singapore. Keep the momentum going! Too many breaks in the song service YOU take the energy and life out of it. Run the songs together in medleys, or back to back.

Let God be God - we need each other as well as God - that is why we are called a worship team. Each member plays a role equally as important as the leader, guiding God's people into the fullness of His presence.
 
Hello!

Hi all,

I am a drummer in Grace Assembly of God church (the one at Bt Batok. Our other building is in Tanglin Road). It's great to see this thread here. I've been "off" the soft forum for a while and it's really great to see some church drummers in this thread. I used to play in bands and gig, but since I started work all those has stopped and the only time I play drums is during worship rehearsals and sundays. I cannot stress the importance of practising. I encourage u, if u have more time in ur hands to make much of your free time to practice. For me I only play with the pads and my progress is limited due to the lack of practice. Nonetheless it doesn't take away the joy of playing music to the Lord.

Here is a funny drum story from my home. My 17 month old son loves to watch me practice on my e-pad. In fact he delights at the sight of my drum sticks (God bless my wife!). He would always stand between me and the pad. Not long ago, I found out that he has a favourite grip. As I practice a lot on trad (coz it looked good, but I play match) he is used to watching my hands in the traditional position. As I twirl the left hand stick to a match grip he would stop my left hand from hitting the pad until I change back to trad. What a feisty little one, but what a joy to watch!!

Take care and God Bless!!
: )X drumdead X ( :
 
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Bro DrumDead, very well said really (Practice Is Most Important), yet require great disclipine & Stamina for sustaining the Drumming Passion which is tough in this busy world today....This was actually one of the Most Important Factor why DXS holds Monthly Meetup - so that we can all Inspire one another to upkeep and uplift each other Spirit into Drumming altogether as a Family Of Drummers. The Motivational Factor Into Drumming is even more so important today, due to the many other commitment we all have.

PS: - Congrate, your kid is going to drum great when he grows up - your are his inspiration ... Cheers


Eric
 
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hey guys. im from evangel family church and i am super glad to see this thread here. ive been learning the drums online for the past 2 months after gaining interest on them at worship time. haha, the drummer seems to have the most fun.

i just wanna thank you bros for the invaluable advice given here.

keep on rocking for God.

ciao =D
 
hey peeps,

im from Grace Jubilee Centre (presbytarian church). its a small church too.. around 200+ ppl in de whole church.. and my church quite budget.. lol.. using a donated Tama Swingstar with paiste 302 14" hats, 1 paiste 302 16" crash, and 1 meinl 18" crash.. Thats All! o.O lol.. i picked up drums since 13, and started playing for church around 14 i think, up until now.. and i havent have drum lessons nor drumsets to practice on except for 1 or 2 days b4 the main service, i go for the worship practice.. mainly i think, its to think how the congregation wld feel when singing the songs.. the lyrics of the songs play a part also.. depending on the words and the meaning of the song u can play different styles.. i just got a 2nd hand Tama Swingstar at home.. =D so now i can practice more and improve on my skills.. but mainly its all abt feel and mood.. how the holy spirit makes u feel at that point of time, u play it out with expression.. thats wad i do.. and listening to the songs on9 or what, gives u a rough idea of the fills and rolls u can do.. well what i've been doing for the past years, since i grow up in church i roughly noe most of the songs that are sung, so i noe how the song goes.. so i just play em in my head and think and imagine how i'll play, den on the practice i try it out, if it works, it works! if not, adapt. lol.. im not a good drummer, quite noob despite these many years of playing, but im de so called 'most pro' drummer at my church. =/ lol.. so i'll keep on improving for God! =D
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kai`
 
Hi Drumdead = Jenn? I think you know who i am. haha. yeah, t think i do agree that some church drummers just overdo it like show off. But there are always the genuine worshipper.

Robin
 
Hello... i'm a totally new fella to Soft.com.sg and I chanced up this thread while browsing around.

I guess the primary rule of thumb I apply to my own drumming style is "Give your absolute best, but don't distract the congregation from worshipping". It's because as a musician (regardless of instrument), we are serving God. Let us not take the spotlight away from Him. The level of drumming which may be seen as a distraction by the congregation definitely differs between services/masses, hence it's important to do a small survey or draw feedback from those in the congregation. It'll be sad if the congregation watches the drummer for the entire worship session and not focus on God!

My church youth service uses a Pearl Export ELX with toms in jazz sizes. The drummers usually bring their own cymbals for service. The adult service uses a Pearl Session Custom (rock size toms) with Vault hats, 2 vault crashes and a K med ride. not say top-of-the-line stuff but can do!

Just my two cents' worth.
 
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Eh sheldie your church set sounds like the pentecost church set. I'm a church drummer too for wesley methodist church youth!
 
plslayer,

yup it is. im from pentecost. :)
oh did u drum today at the 9.30 am youth service? i was visiting wesley today.
 
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