Advice on how to use melodic minor?

[Puddle Smasher]

What intervals to aim and what not to.. the only difference between it and the major scale is b3..

so how do you keep it from sounding even abit like a major scale..the jazzy way it sounds

Any advice?

 

[jeffrey0603]

Yeah i was wondering about that too. If the major scales and the 3 minor scales are almost the same, then how to use them both?

Also (sorry to hijack your thread, i did not want to make a new one), how to make chord progression in let's say harmonic minor scale?
A Harmonic Minor
1. A Minor/Major Seventh
2. B Minor Seventh b5
3. C Major Seventh #5
4. D Minor Seventh
5. E Dominant Seventh
6. F Major Seventh
7. G# Diminished Seventh

So i just pick out random chords from this combination and play and it will sound good and in the key of Gmin? Or is there a sequence like the major scale with the 1,4,5 progression thing. I am really confused someone please help ! thanks.
And sorry again to ts for hijack.

 

[Likui]

experiment, diff note combination will give diff mood. Eg. CDEFGABC will give a happy mood. ABCDEFGA will give a sad mood. see notes are the same but diff starting note = diff mood

 

[Puddle Smasher]

Yeah i was wondering about that too. If the major scales and the 3 minor scales are almost the same, then how to use them both?

Also (sorry to hijack your thread, i did not want to make a new one), how to make chord progression in let's say harmonic minor scale?
A Harmonic Minor
1. A Minor/Major Seventh
2. B Minor Seventh b5
3. C Major Seventh #5
4. D Minor Seventh
5. E Dominant Seventh
6. F Major Seventh
7. G# Diminished Seventh

So i just pick out random chords from this combination and play and it will sound good and in the key of Gmin? Or is there a sequence like the major scale with the 1,4,5 progression thing. I am really confused someone please help ! thanks.
And sorry again to ts for hijack.

dude for me i treat the harmonic minor just like a minor scale..except with the 7th..

so i use like a normal aeolian progression thing , to get the darker sound use the chord corresponding to the major seventh..um example

well.. try this power chord progression thing..its really lousy and simple sorry but maybe it might help you feel the harmonic minor darkness thingy

Am,C,Am,G#

this was the simplest one i could think of (im not sure if the g chord is diminished i guess it is so you could use a diminished chord but i use a major )

and btw no harm done haha im damn confused over melodic money

Honestly it works well in metal cause you can use power chords

 

[Puddle Smasher]

experiment, diff note combination will give diff mood. Eg. CDEFGABC will give a happy mood. ABCDEFGA will give a sad mood. see notes are the same but diff starting note = diff mood

i get that haha..but melodic minor's mood is..jazzy kind if im not wrong..

the only different is the minor third leh, the rest of the notes the same


so when using melodic minor it is really easy to sound major/ionian than sounding like jazz minor type..
so i just need advice on what notes to pick or avoid to make it more different from major

 

[cobain1980]

From what I have read, 2 common instance where melodic minor is used in jazz.

dominant that does not resolve (for chords like dom9, dom13 etc):
Play melodic minor from the 5th note of the root of that dominant chord to get the Lydian dominant scale, basically same as mixolydian mode with a #4.

dominant that resolve (for chords like dom#9, domb5 dom#5 etc)
play melodic minor 1/2 step from the root of the dom chord, ie starting from minor 2nd from the root of dom chord to get the altered dominant scale.

of course these are only 2 of the situations where melodic minor is used. you can look at the chords you are playing and figure out a particular melodic minor scale that fits the chord.

try to figure out the augmented and diminished arpeggios in the scale and use them, think they sound jazzy.

 

[Likui]

i get that haha..but melodic minor's mood is..jazzy kind if im not wrong..

the only different is the minor third leh, the rest of the notes the same


so when using melodic minor it is really easy to sound major/ionian than sounding like jazz minor type..
so i just need advice on what notes to pick or avoid to make it more different from major

err melodic minor can make it sound bluesy, jazzy, rocky, metally, etc, it's how u play it, rather then keep wondering how to do, u can get a teacher or listen to music that u like and transcribe the notes then u see how it's being used.

 

[Puddle Smasher]

metal? ok thanks for the advice guys.. esp the dominant thing..i guess i got alot to learn thanks =)

 

[J.custom]

experiment, diff note combination will give diff mood. Eg. CDEFGABC will give a happy mood. ABCDEFGA will give a sad mood. see notes are the same but diff starting note = diff mood

You are talking about modes. It's just a different degree of a scale, like what he said same scale, diff starting note. It's good to learn them cos diff modes invoke diff emotions, helps a lot to know their position on the fretboard too