zoom b2.1u bass effect
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http://www.zoom.co.jp/archive/English_Manual/E_B2.pdf
you can dl the manual and read its really not tht impt in my opinon.i got the one w/o the expression pedal.
you can dl the manual and read its really not tht impt in my opinon.i got the one w/o the expression pedal.
Indigo_blues
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you can assign the pedal to volume, gain, wah frequency, delay time, reverb time, etc.
exin
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mojo90 said:
swee lee doesn't bring in ZOOM .. honestly .. i think pedals for bassist quite useless if you are playing rock/metal or those genres of music that are pretty loud.
My theory is that .. with your guitarist on full distortion and your drummer whacking so hard .. i doubt your effects will even be heard due to the low frequencies of the bass. The reverb effect will help to make your sound fuller but honestly, i think raw sound still works the best.
If you want to get effects pedal, get either reverb, EQ, or amp modelling pedals. These will help to make your tone fuller in that sense if you use it correctly and have the ear to pick things out.
Effects are only useful if you want to go into solo work/recording and that is when people will get to hear your bass fully with the effects on, then again, there's always digital effects on the recording software to modify your bass. Even so if you play live, i believe that some effects will work the best for your bass, chorus/delay/reverb and depending on what kind of sound you are looking for.
Alot of beginner's make the mistake that a bass guitar NEEDS effect when it's only a complementary thing to have effects. Guitarist's effects are more prominient due to the frequency range of their guitar.
So my advice is that .. CONSIDER WHY YOU WANT TO HAVE AN EFFECTS BOX FOR. Remember that bass frequencies are much lower and harder to pick out to an untrained ear.
I'm not stopping you from buying, i can't anyway, it's your money so i don't really care how you spend it, but of course as a fellow bassist i do wish to help out. Maybe you can consider spending the money to go change your pickups .. =) ..
aloychow
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REviews on Zoom B2.1U??
HAs anyone every tried this efx-box yet? I meant the B2.1U. Anyone?
How big is it? I need to know the size of it. Is the plastic very fragile.. like those made for toy keyboards? Can someone who owns it commends on how close it's amp-modeling is... especially the sansamp.
I'm still deciding on whether to get this to change/model my bass sound or still to get my previous yamaha NE-1 that I sold awaya with my old bass. Help?!
Thanks..cant wait to get news from you experts!!
HAs anyone every tried this efx-box yet? I meant the B2.1U. Anyone?
How big is it? I need to know the size of it. Is the plastic very fragile.. like those made for toy keyboards? Can someone who owns it commends on how close it's amp-modeling is... especially the sansamp.
I'm still deciding on whether to get this to change/model my bass sound or still to get my previous yamaha NE-1 that I sold awaya with my old bass. Help?!
Thanks..cant wait to get news from you experts!!
exin
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Re: REviews on Zoom B2.1U??
my friend bought the guitar version of this. It's pretty small ... let's say around 8 inches across? around there ...
it's pretty solid.
If you want modelling you can get Korg .. or the Sansamp will do fine ... or Hartke bass attack ... personally i don't use amp modelling .. a good onboard EQ and a compressor does the job for me .. =)
aloychow said:HAs anyone every tried this efx-box yet? I meant the B2.1U. Anyone?
How big is it? I need to know the size of it. Is the plastic very fragile.. like those made for toy keyboards? Can someone who owns it commends on how close it's amp-modeling is... especially the sansamp.
I'm still deciding on whether to get this to change/model my bass sound or still to get my previous yamaha NE-1 that I sold awaya with my old bass. Help?!
Thanks..cant wait to get news from you experts!!
my friend bought the guitar version of this. It's pretty small ... let's say around 8 inches across? around there ...
it's pretty solid.
If you want modelling you can get Korg .. or the Sansamp will do fine ... or Hartke bass attack ... personally i don't use amp modelling .. a good onboard EQ and a compressor does the job for me .. =)
UltraSound
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Get the Zoom 708II.... fantastic.
UltraSound
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Bassist won't improve and go far if u stick on tone.
Nowadays we must show the guitarist that bass could overwrite them.
Buy an effects tat sounds u want, NOT wat u need.
i'm using Zoom 708II, the sounds overwrite my guitarist once im using it.
Now im learning my new GT6B.
Nowadays we must show the guitarist that bass could overwrite them.
Buy an effects tat sounds u want, NOT wat u need.
i'm using Zoom 708II, the sounds overwrite my guitarist once im using it.
Now im learning my new GT6B.
Ken
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Dude.... bass players are the rhythm backbone of every band..... we work closely with the drummer so as to create the rhythmic backbone.... its the basic mantra all us bass thumpers should understand.
In more aggressive and modern bass playing, yeah we thump out more up front...but it doesn't change our functions...we are rhythm people.... we shouldn't think about overriding the guitarist /keyboardist/vocalist etc..... Those folks dun mean to upstage us, they atre just doing their job just like how we should do ours.
If real upfront, "everyone bows to the power of my instrument" is what we bass players are looking forward then we have to reconsider why we play bass.
Bottomline is...we are the bottom line...they can play with one less guitar or no guitar or less singers and keyboardist..but every good band has a good bassist. So that's our platform, we are key players not star players.
So back to the point...effects?
Well, they really work if you are in a 3 piece especially when we have to fill up the sonic space live...... and if the music allows the bass to come through to add high points to th emusic..go for all those wacky stuff for areas where you can shine... but before you bu anything, do consider what you wanna use the effects for first.
In more aggressive and modern bass playing, yeah we thump out more up front...but it doesn't change our functions...we are rhythm people.... we shouldn't think about overriding the guitarist /keyboardist/vocalist etc..... Those folks dun mean to upstage us, they atre just doing their job just like how we should do ours.
If real upfront, "everyone bows to the power of my instrument" is what we bass players are looking forward then we have to reconsider why we play bass.
Bottomline is...we are the bottom line...they can play with one less guitar or no guitar or less singers and keyboardist..but every good band has a good bassist. So that's our platform, we are key players not star players.
So back to the point...effects?
Well, they really work if you are in a 3 piece especially when we have to fill up the sonic space live...... and if the music allows the bass to come through to add high points to th emusic..go for all those wacky stuff for areas where you can shine... but before you bu anything, do consider what you wanna use the effects for first.
aloychow
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Thanks but.. haiz.. 
Hmm... I guess I'll not settle for any effect box liao.. my main idea was to my mid-range sound to be adjusted and in-control as my current bass(Warwick Rockbass Corvette Classic) only comes with only 2-band EQ. Wanted to get a standard Yamaha TRB(not the signatured series ones) but I feel that it's not very worth it for the price and sound I'm getting as compared to my current bass. Hmm.. I think I'm still getting the yamaha NE-1 cos that's truely a magic box...cheap, beautiful and awesome. hahaha!!
Know y I wanted to get the Zoom B2.1u cos it has an expression petal to play with... but what's more important is that it has a virtual "sansamp" modulator.. tot if I could get the full control and sound of "sansamp" through this Zoom box at this price.. y not? But then again.. no one answer to my answers..or have tried tt to answer my questoin and it's also too complicated to use.
Thanks guys!
Hmm... I guess I'll not settle for any effect box liao.. my main idea was to my mid-range sound to be adjusted and in-control as my current bass(Warwick Rockbass Corvette Classic) only comes with only 2-band EQ. Wanted to get a standard Yamaha TRB(not the signatured series ones) but I feel that it's not very worth it for the price and sound I'm getting as compared to my current bass. Hmm.. I think I'm still getting the yamaha NE-1 cos that's truely a magic box...cheap, beautiful and awesome. hahaha!!
Know y I wanted to get the Zoom B2.1u cos it has an expression petal to play with... but what's more important is that it has a virtual "sansamp" modulator.. tot if I could get the full control and sound of "sansamp" through this Zoom box at this price.. y not? But then again.. no one answer to my answers..or have tried tt to answer my questoin and it's also too complicated to use.
Thanks guys!
exin
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Good point Ken ... you hit right on the spot.
At the end of the day we as bassist MUST and HAVE to support the band itself. I know alot of us want the limelight ... come on .. who doesn't? even then we have to learn how to support the band as a backstage player in that sense ... great players were good supporters of their own band .. e.g. Marcus Miller ... Brian Bromberg .. John Patitucci ... their lines are mad but they can support their band really well ...
it's a learning journey ... trying to be the next-marcus miller will take you a long time ... but if you are willing to be humble and learn from one another i'm sure that goal is not too far away ..
At the end of the day we as bassist MUST and HAVE to support the band itself. I know alot of us want the limelight ... come on .. who doesn't? even then we have to learn how to support the band as a backstage player in that sense ... great players were good supporters of their own band .. e.g. Marcus Miller ... Brian Bromberg .. John Patitucci ... their lines are mad but they can support their band really well ...
it's a learning journey ... trying to be the next-marcus miller will take you a long time ... but if you are willing to be humble and learn from one another i'm sure that goal is not too far away ..
I use a Zoom 708II, it's good stuff. I must agree tho that you do not necessarily need to use a efx box / multifx but it all boils down to what you're doing in the band. as for me i use the zoom to create interesting stuff (chorus, synth, phaser, etc) on the more experimental songs. but most of the time i set it on bypass.
but sometimes tho it's good to use a multifx for amp modeling, sometimes it really improves the tone / amp sound 100%. and also i use the zoom to set eq levels so you might wanna consider that too.
but sometimes tho it's good to use a multifx for amp modeling, sometimes it really improves the tone / amp sound 100%. and also i use the zoom to set eq levels so you might wanna consider that too.
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