WTS: Yamaha GC41 Grand Concert Classical Guitar

[HNLim]

Type : Classical Guitar
Model : Grand Concert GC41
Construction: Traditional Torres bracing
Origin: Handmade in Japan
Scale Length: 650mm
Top: Solid European Spruce
Back/sides: Solid Honduras Rosewood
Fingerboard: Ebony
Bridge: Indian Rosewood
Neck: Mahogany
Case: Original Yamaha hardcase
Workmanship: Excellent
Sound: Beautiful bell like treble and strong punchy bass
Condition: Excellent prestine condition with original tag
Date Purchase: January 2012
Selling Price: S$2,000/- ONO
List price: Yamaha Singapore- S$5,500/-

Please contact me a: 90011086 if you have further query.

 

[quixilver]

HNLim,

Are you the same guy on the delcamp forum???

http://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=67342&start=15

I see you mention you bought a GC41 at USD 1400 landed in Singapore, that is about S$1767.

So you are selling now for $2000 after playing it for few months?

 

[Dedrick Koh]

HNLim,

Are you the same guy on the delcamp forum???

http://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=67342&start=15

I see you mention you bought a GC41 at USD 1400 landed in Singapore, that is about S$1767.

So you are selling now for $2000 after playing it for few months?

I think HNLim's price is very fair. Considering the inherent risk in importing high end instruments, plus 7% GST that comes with importing guitars, his price is reasonable.

If I were in the market for a CG41, I'd certainly consider it.

And Sebastian (or Tom, or whatever it is you go by nowadays), stop impersonating people. I know the real quixilver and he's not amused. Especially since you are using his identity to flame HNLim.

 

[quixilver]

I think HNLim's price is very fair. Considering the inherent risk in importing high end instruments, plus 7% GST that comes with importing guitars, his price is reasonable.

If I were in the market for a CG41, I'd certainly consider it.

And Sebastian (or Tom, or whatever it is you go by nowadays), stop impersonating people. I know the real quixilver and he's not amused. Especially since you are using his identity to flame HNLim.

Stop making yourself like a fool here....less that $2000 guitar you called them high end instrument??? You still live in the '60s?

Bought at $1700 landed and try to sell at $2,000 after playing for few months, replace the saddle, Addams self made armrest you said this is a reasonable deal? ... LOL...

Why not you buy from him if you guys really like to PLP each other??

 

[quixilver]

I think HNLim's price is very fair. Considering the inherent risk in importing high end instruments, plus 7% GST that comes with importing guitars, his price is reasonable.

If I were in the market for a CG41, I'd certainly consider it.

And Sebastian (or Tom, or whatever it is you go by nowadays), stop impersonating people. I know the real quixilver and he's not amused. Especially since you are using his identity to flame HNLim.

By the way, which Derrick Koh are you??? Just google I found so many Derrick Koh?

What I flame him??? I just at quoted the words that HNLim posted on the other forum what was his buying price and now what price he is selling. Is that fact or flame???

 

[reza_gan]

HNLim,

Are you the same guy on the delcamp forum???

http://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=67342&start=15

I see you mention you bought a GC41 at USD 1400 landed in Singapore, that is about S$1767.

So you are selling now for $2000 after playing it for few months?

HNLim,

To avoid any misunderstanding, I'm the one who is using "quixilver" nickname in Delcamp, while this fellow above is not me and I don't have any idea of whatever purpose he was trying to get by using the same nickname with mine. Well, probably this person is just another fan of mine

Thanks.

 

[reza_gan]

Stop making yourself like a fool here....less that $2000 guitar you called them high end instrument??? You still live in the '60s?

Bought at $1700 landed and try to sell at $2,000 after playing for few months, replace the saddle, Addams self made armrest you said this is a reasonable deal?

Are you trying to say that $2,000 is not reasonable ?

 

[quixilver]

Are you trying to say that $2,000 is not reasonable ?

This is simple logic. Will you buy a used guitar at $2000 if the buyer only paid for $1700?

It is to the buyer to decide. I am just raising my opinion.

 

[reza_gan]

This is simple logic. Will you buy a used guitar at $2000 if the buyer only paid for $1700?

It is to the buyer to decide. I am just raising my opinion.

Depends on the guitar itself, someone can be very lucky to buy a used guitar with a very low price and might get some margins by re-selling it. One guy who won a guitar on the most recent competition, straight away sold his guitar on the backstage, would someone ask that guitar for free because he didn't even spend a single penny for that guitar except for his registration fee for the competition and the travel cost ?
There are cases where you can't apply your common sense. Well, I had encountered one guy who was selling one Australian handmade lattice braced guitar priced $1500+ which I don't think it sounds louder nor better than my cheap student guitar and it was not making any sense for me personally, but I believe every seller has their own right to decide the selling price while every buyer will decide whether the price is right or not. I wouldn't judge someone a fool if it happens that he/she ends up buying that guitar (at least in front of public).

 

[quixilver]

Well, it is a willing buyer and willing seller market. If they are people with the money and willing to pay at this price please go ahead.

But on the other hand, the seller must also have full disclosure on what has been done on the guitar such as saddle change, arm rest etc...I think it is only fair for the potential buyer to be aware of those changes before they decide.

 

[Dedrick Koh]

I can verify that Reza Gan is the true quixilver.

I hope Sebastian's impersonation and hijacking of the identity doesn't create any friction between the REAL quixilver (Reza Gan) and HNLim.

Sebastian is famous for stealing the identities of local guitarists for his own ends. He is quite notorious for doing so and a pox on the Singaporean classical guitar community.

I hope this does not deter any potential buyer from HNLim's offer.

 

[senunkan]

Impersonating issue aside, let's list the facts.
As what Derrick Koh has mentioned there is quite a fair bit of risk when importing guitars from other country.

1) The shipping charges is the main variable here.
I believe HNLim has contacts overseas and that's why he is able to get it at a cheaper freight and arrived safely in SG.
Without a US counter part, the freight charges alone will kill the deal.
Some dealers actually quote almost 1k or more for the shipping to SG which will make it less favourable to import.

2) The packaging of the guitar is an important aspect.
Without good packaging to protect the guitar against rough shipping handling, there is a very high chance of damage during shipping.
And sadly not all dealers know how to properly package the guitars.
Obviously since HNLim's guitar arrived here unscathed, there is an good indication of sufficiently good packaging during the transport of the guitar.

Say, if the guitar arrived damaged, then the repair cost will make the import less favourable.
Sometimes, e.g. damage to the top, the cost of repair might cost as much as the guitar itself.
Finding a good repair technician in Singapore is another problem.

3) 7% GST is another killer.
Tied the point 1) if the shipping charges are high, the GST will be raised too.
And GST takes into account all the charges paid including the shipping charges.
Take a look at customs website to know the details.
So knowing how to save shipping charges will cut down the taxes paid.

4) Ultimately, the sound is quite unknown when you import guitar.
Although in this case Yamaha guitar are quite well known for consistency, but it's always good to try the actual guitar before buying.
Since HNLim's guitar is available for testing why not give it a try to see if you like the sound.
There is a chance of trying out when you are buying locally and that is a plus.

To summarise, it's not wrong to point out the facts BUT if one does it with an malice intent to smear the reputation of another, then I believe that is not ethical.
Fact is one thing but interpretation of facts is very proned to be distorted into something looking bad.
Ultimately since this is about the guitar selling, whether you like the guitar's sound / playability / worksmanship etc should be the most important consideration.
And since there is a chance to try it out personally, why not contact HNLim and try it out yourself.

 

[quixilver]

I can verify that Reza Gan is the true quixilver.

I hope Sebastian's impersonation and hijacking of the identity doesn't create any friction between the REAL quixilver (Reza Gan) and HNLim.

Sebastian is famous for stealing the identities of local guitarists for his own ends. He is quite notorious for doing so and a pox on the Singaporean classical guitar community.

I hope this does not deter any potential buyer from HNLim's offer.

Derick Koh,

Listen here... I did not claim myself to be whoever you mentioned. Unless you can prove me that the name quixilver is a registered trademark of this guy name Reza Gan, or else it does not stop anyone using any name.

Are you the one and only one in the world can use Derick Koh on forum??? Answer me this question!!

You simply making assumption of the case as right from the beginning I did not claim I am Reza or Sebastian. Why you are so interested on this subject of who's who and not on the subject matter of this Yamaha guitar.

Is that a problem?

 

[quixilver]

Impersonating issue aside, let's list the facts.
As what Derrick Koh has mentioned there is quite a fair bit of risk when importing guitars from other country.

1) The shipping charges is the main variable here.
I believe HNLim has contacts overseas and that's why he is able to get it at a cheaper freight and arrived safely in SG.
Without a US counter part, the freight charges alone will kill the deal.
Some dealers actually quote almost 1k or more for the shipping to SG which will make it less favourable to import.

2) The packaging of the guitar is an important aspect.
Without good packaging to protect the guitar against rough shipping handling, there is a very high chance of damage during shipping.
And sadly not all dealers know how to properly package the guitars.
Obviously since HNLim's guitar arrived here unscathed, there is an good indication of sufficiently good packaging during the transport of the guitar.

Say, if the guitar arrived damaged, then the repair cost will make the import less favourable.
Sometimes, e.g. damage to the top, the cost of repair might cost as much as the guitar itself.
Finding a good repair technician in Singapore is another problem.

3) 7% GST is another killer.
Tied the point 1) if the shipping charges are high, the GST will be raised too.
And GST takes into account all the charges paid including the shipping charges.
Take a look at customs website to know the details.
So knowing how to save shipping charges will cut down the taxes paid.

4) Ultimately, the sound is quite unknown when you import guitar.
Although in this case Yamaha guitar are quite well known for consistency, but it's always good to try the actual guitar before buying.
Since HNLim's guitar is available for testing why not give it a try to see if you like the sound.
There is a chance of trying out when you are buying locally and that is a plus.

To summarise, it's not wrong to point out the facts BUT if one does it with an malice intent to smear the reputation of another, then I believe that is not ethical.
Fact is one thing but interpretation of facts is very proned to be distorted into something looking bad.
Ultimately since this is about the guitar selling, whether you like the guitar's sound / playability / worksmanship etc should be the most important consideration.
And since there is a chance to try it out personally, why not contact HNLim and try it out yourself.

At least your comment made a lot of sense. We should talk about the guitar and not who's who. I think the buyer should try it out and decide.

 

[HNLim]

Original and upgraded nut and saddle are easily interchangeable and is in the guitar case. Armrest is fully detachable and match the guitar perfectly. Condition and sound of the guitar is excellent. Guitar is very easy to play and very comfortable to hold. Nothing like playing the guitar yourself to determine its condition and quality. With 7 guitars now, it is too many for me to play all of them. I have several more to sell at a later date.

 

[Dedrick Koh]

It is weird and very distrubing to see a crazy person log in to different accounts to try to create support for mad ideas..

To potential buyers, please don't let the inane rants of an unstable person affect your impression of item being offered here.

 

[maestroguitar]

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you are too kind Reza,.. we all know who 'he' is... only 'he' thinks he can hide behind a name... fortunately nothing gets deleted from the internet... such fun watching 'him'

 

[Nicholasim]

Epic troll is epic