SLS help?

[Ardentash]

If im not wrong Speech level singing is for those people who have a unstable larynx right?

I am under non-speech level singing de so the teacher can't help me much.

I have a problem basically i think most people have? When i go higher and higher,its harder to squeak a sound out and the most straining part but i still can hit is E but its strained. Its like although in my chest voice range, i go higher and higher,it gets more tight and tight in my throat and i know singing shouldn't be. The unstable larynx cause me to flip into falsetto at anything above E but my falsetto range is very limited also. Can only hit 2 or 3 notes only and anything higher is like overblowing.

So anyone here from SLS and what are the things the teacher teach to keep the larynx as stable as possible so i will have my true "born" range.

 

[illuminationexcursion]

First off, any wrong methods of singing will produce a high larynx. Since a relaxed and musical sound is best produced with a low larynx, it should follow that any good singing technique will advocate the same concept although it might not be explicitly acknowledged.

A SLS teacher will give you simple vocal exercises to cross that "first bridge".

That first bridge is exactly that E when you say is the max you can reach. To sing anything above that E in full chest, you will be pulling on your vocal cords. The body's natural protection mechanism kicks in and blows your vocal cords apart to relieve the tension - thats falsetto.

SLS teaches this concept of singing in the "mix". Put simply, it is this space where resonance occurs both in the chest and head region, as opposed to pulling where the resonance is forced to remain in the chest. If done correctly, the "mix" allows a seamless bridge from chest voice to head voice with no breaks in between - only a single connected voice with clear and pure vowels.

No amount of theory you read and think about will beat putting on the exercises and letting it work for you. Get a qualified SLS instructor.

 

[Ardentash]

ya.. my range im pretty sure is not that limited by natural de. Its like because of this larynx thing right. I think i have less than one octave. Like start from Middle C and end at E/F sharp
3 notes only sing what.lol

 

[noinimod]

Do lip rolls to free up any strain in your larynx; they'll (at least for me) also help you to discover your head voice, which is the register that should be in charge those high notes instead of your chest. I know exactly how you feel - i used to try and pull chest to hit E/F and it's brutal not only for my vocal health, but for ppl to hear also.

SLS should never feel forced.. that's the most important thing to keep in mind. There shouldn't be any strain even for the high notes

 

[Ardentash]

i know for liprolls.for notes above E or what,instead of headvoice,i used falsetto also =x.
I do liproll,i relax also strain like what i do in singing =9

 

[illuminationexcursion]

i know for liprolls.for notes above E or what,instead of headvoice,i used falsetto also =x.
I do liproll,i relax also strain like what i do in singing =9

It is wholly possible to strain on the lip roll as well. I suspect the main problem is that you are so not used to your own headvoice, you confuse it for falsetto and thus try to snap out of it by pulling your chest.

For the male voice, headvoice can feel deceptively like falsetto at times because the two resonate at the exact same area, the only difference being the amount of vocal cord adduction. And at times the distinction can be hard to put a finger on.

As it is, you are merely building more incorrect muscle memory which will in turn only require more time, effort and money to undo. You need to get a qualified SLS instructor.

 

[Ardentash]

So normal singing school teachers won't be able to help right? because the stuff sls teacher teach is different right?
But whats the price for sls. I heard its expensive and you pay whenever you want to go right?

 

[nibelungvalesti]

I'm an SLS student. As far as i know, there are only 2 certified teachers in Singapore. You should give this website a visit http://www.danielstudios.com/

Call him up, and ask him about SLS if you wish, just don't disturb him too much if you're not interested.

As far as i have learnt, SLS has LOTS to do with vowel purity - like what it says, its about singing as though you speak, going through SLS i can say that my previous speaking habits (and my current speaking habits) are what prevented me from singing better in the past.

Either way, see an SLS instructor.

 

[btherl]

So normal singing school teachers won't be able to help right? because the stuff sls teacher teach is different right?
But whats the price for sls. I heard its expensive and you pay whenever you want to go right?

That depends what you mean by "normal" There's a huge variety of teaching methods, and they all differ from each other. Some have parts in common, and SLS has parts in common with other methods too.

The price is not cheap, but you do go whenever you want. For me it worked out cheaper and more effective than other options, both because the teaching is better and because there's no "contract". You only go back if you think it's worth it.

 

[Ardentash]

so normal singing level de school teachers would not be able to help unlearn bad habits and cure the incorrect muscle memory stuff?
I know when talking will also like that leh. Talking to certain people AT TIMES or during presentation to the class,my voice will become like very deep and sorta soft. When i try to louder my volume, my throat is like i pushing it to come out but its stopping me also. I guess this is due to bad habit and incorrect muscle memory also?Been there for FEW years le but i dun mind the time and effort,money for sls if it can cure my talking/singing habit

Btw,i am confirmed having lesson with mr daniel soon. Anyone has his address? I know its at toa payoh right? If anyone has,can pm me the address?

 

[cloudwind]

If im not wrong Speech level singing is for those people who have a unstable larynx right?

I am under non-speech level singing de so the teacher can't help me much.

I have a problem basically i think most people have? When i go higher and higher,its harder to squeak a sound out and the most straining part but i still can hit is E but its strained. Its like although in my chest voice range, i go higher and higher,it gets more tight and tight in my throat and i know singing shouldn't be. The unstable larynx cause me to flip into falsetto at anything above E but my falsetto range is very limited also. Can only hit 2 or 3 notes only and anything higher is like overblowing.

So anyone here from SLS and what are the things the teacher teach to keep the larynx as stable as possible so i will have my true "born" range.

Actually they've some exercises to condition it. It's best that you attend lesson personally from certified instructors. It's worth the $. Personally based on my experience, one lesson solve problems that I din't manage to overcome from other schs I had attended. That's my personal view. Give it a try.

 

[Ardentash]

Yerp. i taking lesson soon.
So even best school like li fei hui,lee wei song who are non sls teacher also can't help to "cure" this problem? only sls teachers?

 

[cloudwind]

Yerp. i taking lesson soon.
So even best school like li fei hui,lee wei song who are non sls teacher also can't help to "cure" this problem? only sls teachers?

Hmm.. I didn't take lesson from above. I learnt from 3 other instructors of non-sls. Only SLS enabled me to sing effortlessly so far. And basically, there's not much of problem with "breaks".

A tip for u, if you wanna accelerate ur learning get experienced instructor.

 

[Ardentash]

yerp i starting soon.
Cause i know daniel singh is level 2 now.if he become level 3 or what next year,price increase again.

 

[cloudwind]

yerp i starting soon.
Cause i know daniel singh is level 2 now.if he become level 3 or what next year,price increase again.

U taking lesson frm him? Then stop him from leveling up.. lol

 

[Ardentash]

lol.soon. But i heard about a thread yet that daniel said something bout a student to stop taking lessons from him. i think my case worser.wonder i get same thing anot =(

 

[btherl]

Daniel has only ever recommended to 2 students that they don't take lessons from him. PM me if you are really curious as to why.

The only way you'll know is to try. I was impressed enough by my first SLS lesson that I kept on taking them. If it hadn't worked out for me I would have gone and found another teacher.

 

[Ardentash]

I'm really nervous. Hopefully a sls teacher can help me to cure my long term bad habit and incorrect muscle memory because the non sls teacher seems unable to ..

 

[cloudwind]

I'm really nervous. Hopefully a sls teacher can help me to cure my long term bad habit and incorrect muscle memory because the non sls teacher seems unable to ..

Rest assured. My experience - 1 or 2 lessons resolved bad habits. haha

 

[Ardentash]

But i heard right,non sls and sls the warm up all those teaches same thing?