Singing in Key

gjkung

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another long post from me...

Firstly, staying in key is not just about the vocal cords. Three components: vocal chords, breath(diaphragm) and brain.

The brain is the memory and crap, it tells what note to sing. You have know be focused enough mentally to keep the note. For young singers it's very hard to keep that part right. In my choir, the sec 1s and 2s are always straying off cuz they only thing they can think of is the basketball game they played an hour ago and the rematch after choir practice. You must not be distracted, it's like a memorising lyrics, you can't memorise if you have another song playing in your head am I right?

That part I can't help you, you have be more focused on your own. If you're tone death then that's harder, cuz I've never been tone death. A good idea will be to listen to yourself more. I've heard a couple of tone death people and they just don't seem to be listening to themselves. You have to be conscious of three things simultaneously.
1: The pitch you are trying to sing(if you're singing with a piano, listen for the piano)
2: The pitch that's actually from your voice, if you can't hear yourself that well, press one ear with your hand. Use your inner hearing to check for the pitch. Keep the other ear on the pitch you're trying to sing.
3: The body, if you find that you're not singing the same note as the piano, then you'd have to change. you must move your vocal chords and diaphragm together to change your note while listening consciously for the wanted pitch and your real pitch.

If you keep your mind on all those 3 for a 100% then you should be able to hit it right.

For your vocal cords, you can try running scales, like a chromatic or a solfege(do-re-mi-fa-so-la-ti-do) scale. Use a piano to help, just run all the white keys from the C. Start slowly and listen for the piano's pitch and yours. Check and move to the next note and keep going and speed up gradually. It'd improve with time.

For the breath, it's important to learn proper breathing(some of my old stuff: http://www.soft.com.sg/new/modules....c&t=7059&sid=db7ac60a6ece3e89fe306b367f8a312b). I don't want to say too much here, but you must make sure you learn proper diaphragmatic breathing from someone, cuz it's important that you're not breathing with your chest or the airflow will not be constant enough to stay on pitch. Your breathing should feel like a yawn, a very lazy feel. You shouldn't feel like you're sucking air, but instead more like just relaxing your lungs and letting the air fill it up. Not all vocalist do it the right way, but if you need help then there it is.

About tone deathness:

Tone deathness is not a hardware problem. All vocal cords can sing pitch and we all can do it. It's just consciousness of the thing called "pitch". Tone death people can hear pitch, just that they don't understand what's a hi or whats a lo. Tone death people are unable to understand that different pitches are different musically. It's like choosing paint colours, some of us don't understand why artists get so picky about colours, we just pick one and start colouring and don't even care when their brush is dirty with alot of funny colours after painting for a long time. Doing that is like being tone death when you sing, just any note will be the same to you. Be sensitive, make sure you are singing what you hear, even if there is the slightest difference between the piano and you, it is still a difference and is NOT acceptable.

A good way of understanding pitching problems will be to run from your highest note to your lowest. Start by screeching the highest note you can sing(without hurting youself) and you go all the way down. Like a sigh, you just slide from the highest possible pitch and go down to the lowest possible. Make the whole thing smooth, just slide down and go lower and lower till you cannot reach any lower. Then you should have heard every single pitch you can sing in your range, now divide that into a hundred different pitches and make sure that you take only right 1 out of the 100 at one time and not singing any note. While you are sliding, you can also mark each pitch with the piano play it down as you sing, it will help.

The point of getting the right key is just to be conscious of it, and be conscious of the instrument which is your body. You must know the strokes and the colour of the paintbrush and paint to draw correctly, and be very sensitive and perfectionistic about that. that's all, happy singing.

thanks for reading.
 
my 2 cents:

using your head and chest voice help you pitch better.
on using diaphragm: try laughing. remember what you feel just right below your chest. that's you using your diaphragm. activate that when trying to sing. it's the source for vibratos and all that essentials for control and projection.

accurate pitching is all about practise; like drumming - it's memory.



:)
 
yeah, it's a life skill, you must learn it the way you learnt to walk. Some of us get it from young cause of certain influences.

what do you mean by memorising though? This article is about singing the write pitch that you want to sing, not memorising a tune, less memorising a key to sing to. mind if you elaborate? :wink:
 
when you sing a key often, you remember it. it's not about memorising tunes, but keys ie notes. if you sing E everyday to yourself, after a while, you probably can reproduce it without any tonal support or ref. doing that with all the other notes help you - become relative pitch.

i trained myself (or rather, a friend helped) to relative pitch, from a total tone deaf person. unlike perfect pitch ie absolute pitch pple, relative pitch pple just know when they're out or not.

also, i tend to recall G most easily. so when i'm without a tuner and a guitar's in need of tuning, i sing G to myself and slowly count my way up and down the notes to tune the guitar. not that it's any accurate -shrug-

having said that, perfect pitch can be trained. tough, but possible. as they say, anything uncertain is certainly a possibility. ;)

but some, just some, are born with it. amazing talent (curse too) - perfect pitch, that is.
 
oh that I understand, but is that the problem with tone deaf people? Cuz it seems like they can't tell between two different pitches in the first place.

and about perfect pitch, it's a rare skill that normally very good pianists attain. It's takes many years of practice with the piano to be able to sing the right pitch.

For trying to sing in key, it's better not to waste your time memorising pitch cuz you'd have to memorise and recall every single note of the song. Instead use relative pitching turbochicken mentioned. Remember the intervals between you and the guitars or some other instrument, it should come quite naturally once you start to catch the melody of the song. To train that you'd have to play the songs over and over on the CD and in your head in the bath room till it's in your head for good.

thanks for the response.
 
1 very simple, easy to remember tip...

If you are not sure of the note, go above it, think higher...


do not ever go under the note... it is easier to get it when you go higher.
 
am not sure if that's the prob with tone deaf pple, but it worked for me.
personally, it's really about getting familiar with the scale of pitch.
 
hey sorry to go off topic a lil because no one asnwered my other thread

about vibrato, are there certain ways to sing the notes? like vowels, a, e, o?
 
Hi Tany! You need to have a proper training from a qualified teacher to understand what you need to achieve. Hope that helps!
 
another really good technique, instead of memorising the pitch, is to memorise songs in terms of relativity...

e.g. to know how many steps the next note is from the previous... then, to sing in key, one would just need a reference point... like the 1st note of the song...
 
madwerewolf,

that'd be memorising the song, no?

if it is, it's definitely not the way to go.
and it sounds more like a method than a technique.

:)
 
i had to keep humming the starting of this choral piece(A) so very soon i remembered the pitch. just like the tuning fork.
 
you guys are going OFF-TOPIC.


This thread is about how to keep in tune with the song, how to be in key. It's not about learning to sing tunes and memorising pitch.

Please contribute advice on how to detect off-pitchness for a tone death person and how to solve the problem.
 
RELAX. they're relatives.

see, keeping in tune, if one's familiar with various notes, will have more confidence in hitting them when the tune gets familiar.

practise and familiarity.

even for tone deaf pple. like how i was.

on detecting pitchiness in a tone deaf person, no other way round it: someone has to guide the fella; make him slash her realise the key he slash she is actually singing by vocally comparing the note sung with the intended note from the keyboard etc etc.
 
yeah that has always been the way, though not very musical as it is considered drilling. But still, you have to force the basics in before you start being musical
 
Singing in correct tune

Hi there, this thingy about singing in the correct key/tune. Well, most importantly, you must mentally hear the note, mentally pitch in the note and then execute the note. In my course of teaching, I have encountered students asking me how to train in correct pitching. The easiest way you can do is - turn on your karaoke machine, switch the keys from 0 gradually to -4 and vice versa, try pitch in the different keys, record it and listen. Repeat as many times as you think appropriate.

Hope this helps!

Carina (Liqing)
Voice Instructor
 
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