Replacement Ibanez heel joint neck
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It's gonna be tough to get an exact replacement neck since the RT has been discontinued for a while and the heel joint necks have been replaced by the AANJ neck on nearly all ibanez models since 93-94.
You could go to secondhand shops or look at ebay.
Or maybe you try looking at the ibanez forums or jemsite for alternative options.
Last option would be a custom neck, which will cost quite a bit. There's a company/group that does replacement Ibanez necks based in Australia but i can't remember the name.
EDIT: found it http://www.etguitars.com/necks.htm google ftw. but like i said freaking expensive.
You could go to secondhand shops or look at ebay.
Or maybe you try looking at the ibanez forums or jemsite for alternative options.
Last option would be a custom neck, which will cost quite a bit. There's a company/group that does replacement Ibanez necks based in Australia but i can't remember the name.
EDIT: found it http://www.etguitars.com/necks.htm google ftw. but like i said freaking expensive.
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faekildare
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24 fret RG Neck heal joint would not work on an RT series. This is because, if u notice the RG 24 frets, the higher frets are actually extended out. Even if you do attached it to the RT body, u will have to sacrifice the neck pick up for the extra 2 frets. I think it might screw up your scale length and harmonic points too for that matter.
faekildare
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Help me delete this post. Accidentally double post.
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evo76
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My RT240 is a 24-fretter with a S-S-H pickup configuration that I've changed way back >10 years ago to DiMarzio HS-1, HS-2 and evolution. I've attached a link to a representative RT catalog. Its similar to the RT450 except no sunburst and S-S-H pickup configuration.
http://www.ibanezrules.com/catalogs/us/1993/rt_2.jpg
Tone-wise, its great for warm tones as its an alder body, and I believe its a 1 piece maple neck with rosewood fingerboard.
I guess its more realistic to re-fret, install locking tuners and replace the strat-style bridge to Kalhers.
http://www.ibanezrules.com/catalogs/us/1993/rt_2.jpg
Tone-wise, its great for warm tones as its an alder body, and I believe its a 1 piece maple neck with rosewood fingerboard.
I guess its more realistic to re-fret, install locking tuners and replace the strat-style bridge to Kalhers.
relinquish69
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nice guitar you have there. well for starters, there are other alternatives to a kalher bridges. you've got to tell us what is the purpose of you doing such a big mod so that we could give you alternatives rather than going through the making a new neck route.
evo76
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Thanks. The objective is to have a whammy for bar to pull up and flutter w/o too much routing.
As you can see from the catalog, the body is basically alder with a plastic coat instead of a clear oil finish. So any routing would risk having crack lines on the body
relinquish69
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Hmm, I think I understand. In any mod where routing is involved, the risk of chipping off some paint is highly possible. Crack lines on the body on the other hand, not possible unless your guitar has a very bad case of weather checking.
Have you compared the difference between Kalher and ORF/Gotoh/any other stable trem? Have to make a non biased judgment when it comes to such a thing because such mods are irreversible and tend to cost a lot of money. you could check out youtube for comparisons between the 2 trems if you don't have the chance to try it in real life.
In both cases where a Kalher trem and a OFR trem is involved, routing would be necessary. it is another thing when we are talking about the damage on the finish. Sometimes it happens most of the time it doesn't. Unless you want to keep as much of the wood as possible than Kalher is the obvious choice.
Oh btw, have you checked out this out?
http://www.tremking.com/
faekildare
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I've personally tried the trem king. Pretty cool i would say, smooth like butter. But i still prefer the rawness of floyd rose. I dunno if the RG 24 fret can fit the AT 24 fret. U gotta try on that. See if you can get it from the bay? Or custom necks maybe?
evo76
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Hi faekildare & relinquish69,
Very nice to hear both your suggestions.
After looking through more information, both TremKing and Kahler requires some form of routing to the body, both have their own strengths compared to a traditional floating bridge:
TK being more stable as the saddles don't move but Kahler is better at bar flutters.
That being said, getting the parts and getting a good luthier would set me back >1k. The more sensible thing is to keep it or modify to a hardtail.
Hey relinquish69, noticed that you are selling an RG1077XL with a 27" scale length. How does the fret space feel compared to 'standard' 25.5" scale length and how does it sound in standard tuning B-E as it is essentially a baritone?
Very nice to hear both your suggestions.
After looking through more information, both TremKing and Kahler requires some form of routing to the body, both have their own strengths compared to a traditional floating bridge:
TK being more stable as the saddles don't move but Kahler is better at bar flutters.
That being said, getting the parts and getting a good luthier would set me back >1k. The more sensible thing is to keep it or modify to a hardtail.
Hey relinquish69, noticed that you are selling an RG1077XL with a 27" scale length. How does the fret space feel compared to 'standard' 25.5" scale length and how does it sound in standard tuning B-E as it is essentially a baritone?
relinquish69
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Mine is tuned in standard but it shines in low tunings like C standard where the lowest string has more definition compared to a normal 25.5" scale. Definition is something you want when playing the 7th string. That being said, the distance between the frets are slightly larger. need some time to get used to it. Like what Marty Friedman would say, don't stretch, just move to a different string haha!
Ok so a longer scaled guitar is better for the low strings but people claim that the highs are compromised although I can't really hear the difference.
evo76
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That's how I'm currently set-up.
The neck on my RT240 is somewhat high, i.e. the fingerboard and fret is higher than the body so I've got the strat-styled bridge posts up so its floating. This works for flutter and I can even pull up a step but it but looks quite weird. Coupled with corrosion, it really needs a change.
Ditto for the neck with uneven fret wear. It will also need to be checked for straightness too.
Lots of considerations and I have to do some leg work to look around and settle to book it in 1 of the shops here. I've heard wonders about what Malcolm can do so I should drop him an email.
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Heres my ibanez R series guitar, heavily moded. Posted b4, posting again for threadstarters sake.
Work done: refinish, refret, pups replaced,bridge changed to gotoh wilkinson. Tuners replaced. Hate those magnum locking tuners.
Closer look at the body + bridge
Most Work done @ g77. The wilkinson bridge was a direct drop in replacement. Heck i even changed the bridge myself.
Additional work: Plan to add string trees and maybe change the single coil pups.
Pic with the neck joint. Is this the same as yours?
Work done: refinish, refret, pups replaced,bridge changed to gotoh wilkinson. Tuners replaced. Hate those magnum locking tuners.
Closer look at the body + bridge
Most Work done @ g77. The wilkinson bridge was a direct drop in replacement. Heck i even changed the bridge myself.
Additional work: Plan to add string trees and maybe change the single coil pups.
Pic with the neck joint. Is this the same as yours?
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Thats the gotoh wilkinson bridge. Was purchased at zen guitarworks after all the painting, refret etc had been done.
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges...toh_VS-100N_Tremolo.html?tab=Pictures#details
Yes it can be pulled up, but range is very limited.
Seriously unless you're keeping the guitar for sentimental reasons( mine was a gift) Might be a lot more worthwhile to purchase a new/2nd hand guitar with floyd type bridge.
My suggestion would be a ibanez s series with zr trem.
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges...toh_VS-100N_Tremolo.html?tab=Pictures#details
Yes it can be pulled up, but range is very limited.
Seriously unless you're keeping the guitar for sentimental reasons( mine was a gift) Might be a lot more worthwhile to purchase a new/2nd hand guitar with floyd type bridge.
My suggestion would be a ibanez s series with zr trem.
evo76
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