Prices. Your Opinion.

[evident]

It seems that most people on soft have trouble estimating the value and price of certain items. They automatically assume all USED, and/or 2nd-hand items should be priced cheaper (50-66% of original price) disregarding appreciation, duration used, condition of item. I believe items such as cymbals (i'm not sure about others like guitars, or keyboards) have certain appreciation to them due to patina, and tone changes over time, kinda making it sound more "vintage", old and warmer. Of course items such as electronics have a depreciation, that doesn't need to be discussed. I believe guitars should have a slight appreciation too, especially since there are people who like older, more weathered looking guitars.

So let me know what you think.

 

[j_m_s]

geez..

its mostly about supply and demand, well, mainly demand. for the better part of it.

 

[EngelFaeuste]

A little common sense would tell you that the seller sets the price here. It's up to the buyer to decide, buyer don't like, DON'T BUY! Don't pester others/waste time.

 

[squirrel]

You obviously have no eye for doing business and zero bargaining skills.
Only certain guitars have appreciation value. Would you pay the same price for a used fender standard strat made in say 2006? or would you mark it down by at least 30% cause anymore and you might as well get a new one?

 

[dudelove]

You obviously have no eye for doing business and zero bargaining skills.

and basic economics

this topic has been discussed to death alrdy

 

[EngelFaeuste]

this topic has been discussed to death alrdy

Not to mention with no tangible results.

 

[Ized]

evident, are you like uh, kidding?

I'd like to see you sell a squier guitar at a higher price cos the tone "appreciates"?

I think you need to change your entire mindset about perceived used market value cos you obviously dont have a freaking clue about how things work at all.

 

[squirrel]

I'd like to see how long he'd last in the real world

 

[evident]

i did mention that i don't know much about guitars. plus what i meant to say was that SOME guitars should have appreciation not all. anyway if you guys just want to start a flame war then i won't bother with this thread anymore.

i may have no business sense, but i'm not an asshole.

 

[squirrel]

i did mention that i don't know much about guitars. plus what i meant to say was that SOME guitars should have appreciation not all. anyway if you guys just want to start a flame war then i won't bother with this thread anymore.

i may have no business sense, but i'm not an asshole.

But you did comment on how long I'd last with a particular guitar didn't you?

 

[fgl]

EVIDENT - I do see your point and you are right on a mirc oeconomic scale. At the same time, the others are right on a macro economic scale.

As someone mentioned, its supply & demand. Guitar collectors will pay an arm & a leg for say a 54' original fender strat in beat up condition but wont pay any "appreciation" price for say a 2002 american standard.

Most 2nd hand dealers offer even more ridiculous prices - ppl who have sold their stuff to these musical karanguni ppl will know what I mean. As a "business" - all they what to appreciate is how cheap they can buy for and how high they can re-sell for profit.

As a pretty succesful seller here in soft, and over many years buying / selling / trading etc guitars with shops, friends etc - I find the norm in SG is still 2nd hand = cheaper than orginal price. Ultimately the seller can set his own "appreciate" price but market condition will mean negative returns.

 

[cosmicorder]

Value for 2nd hand

For most part the 1st hand market (new items) in Singapore is highly inflated. It may have something to do with the high cost of showroom rentals and high cost of just about everything.

The 2nd hand market here runs exactly in the same league. People buy instruments use them, keep them do whatever and then post it for sale at almost ridiculous prices. Many a times its almost like the sellers trying to try their luck. - this happens on property, cars, electronics, musical equipment............

But then yes, ultimately its the deal between the seller and the buyer!

If you analyze the items posted on this forum and do a comparison to same/similar ones at ebay (other than .sg) you'll know what i mean.

 

[squirrel]

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to do a proper research on the Item that you're purchasing and then determining how much to fork out for it. I don't see any wrong in first inflating prices then bringing it down to make seem like the buyer has god a good deal.

 

[EngelFaeuste]

All this price shit wouldn't be a problem if people bothered with a little research! Lazy people get conned, that's a fact of life.

 

[taypeng81]

yeah man i find it irritating when pple dont do research on their own and worst still.. dont even read the post or maybe choose to ignore/dont understand the term "price is firm".

 

[bigblackbear]

based on the prices on soft. prices for cymbals rarely appreciate. even discontinued models are sold at a much cheaper price simply because they are not new.

 

[Ized]

EVIDENT

As someone mentioned, its supply & demand. Guitar collectors will pay an arm & a leg for say a 54' original fender strat in beat up condition but wont pay any "appreciation" price for say a 2002 american standard.

fgl pretty much summed it all up.

evident, all i can say that its pretty much common sense when it comes to buying and selling. Do your own research and you wont be taken for a ride, much less scorned and being at the receiving end of unecessary sarcastic blowdrying while attempting to convince a seasoned buyer of your so-called perceived "appreciation" value.