Learning Pace

mistiqe

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Hi,

I just started learning the guitar (classical/acoustic) one-to-one from an instructor. So far, I have gone for almost 10 lessons and practised almost every day for half hour at least. Still, I can't seem to get even the basics like rhythm and actions (the small little details like how much each finger should bend, how each stroke should be...) right!

Would like to know if there is a 'normal' learning pace? Haha, I think no one can truly proclaim something like that but would just like to find out. I think I am pretty slow and trying to improve!


Thanks!
 
dood! diff people learn at diff paces. some are slow starters like urself. it's on u to continue practicing. btw...half an hour a day isn't really alot. may not be enough for some people :O
 
What has your teacher been showing you?

If you could say -exactly- what you have been given each lesson, that would help.

Does your teacher write everything down, so you know what to practise when you get home, or does he/she just tell you what to do for the next lesson?
 
it will be helpful if u could tell us what ur teacher has taught u and what have u been practicing everyday. ur slow pace could be because u did not put in enough effort during practice sessions.
 
thanks =)

actually what has been retarding my process is a) lousy sense of rhythm (and this holds true for my singing lessons as well) and b) fingering. i understand that i am supposed to press on the fret with the very tip of my fingers. however, my nails always get in the way despite the fact that i have trimmed it as short as it can go. i wonder if my nails will 'morph' or develop as i practise more such that it doesn't stick out? i don't really know how to describe it... like even when i trim till the pinkish part, it still gets in the way.
 
thanks =)

actually what has been retarding my process is a) lousy sense of rhythm (and this holds true for my singing lessons as well) and b) fingering. i understand that i am supposed to press on the fret with the very tip of my fingers. however, my nails always get in the way despite the fact that i have trimmed it as short as it can go. i wonder if my nails will 'morph' or develop as i practise more such that it doesn't stick out? i don't really know how to describe it... like even when i trim till the pinkish part, it still gets in the way.

for fingering,dosent matter how u press as long as u feel comfortable and got sound can already and for the rhythm part, a metronome would help. there is no normal learning pace. it depends on how much effort u put in to practice. As the saying goes, Practice makes perfect.
 
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Get your teacher to help you out with your posture and grip. Also, ask him if your guitar is in a playable condition. Although I know that many (me included) started using a kapok guitar with rusty strings with ridiculously high action, having a guitar that is properly adjusted may tremendously facilitate your enjoyment to practice.
 
actually what has been retarding my process is a) lousy sense of rhythm (and this holds true for my singing lessons as well)


You should practise sight-reading rhythm on its' own.

Two books I would recommend are 'flip a rhythm' (boosey and hawkes), and 'sight reading - the rhythm book' (mel bay publications).

In reading music, you are essentially reading two things - pitch and rhythm. The first part in developing sight-reading is to be able to read the rhythm of the piece accurately. If you can do this, it 'frees up' your mind to concentrate on pitch. Consequently, the two feed off of each other, and after a short while, both will become fluent.



Here's a guide to practising sight-reading rhythm:

(PS all of these are to be done whilst using a metronome)

1) tap the rhythm of the piece in your RH

2) as for 1, only also count the main beats out loud (e.g. '1 2 3 4'). If this is too difficult, count the subdivisions also (e.g. if you have quavers, count the quavers). But ultimately you want to be able to count the main pulse out only. The subdivisions should become internalised.

3) repeat steps 1 and 2, only this time tap a metronome beat gently (i.e. just your index finger) in your LH. Tap the rhythm loud in your RH. To get this really good, lift your RH high when tapping the rhythm, and keep your LH against your leg when tapping, making sure only the finger taps.





fingering. i understand that i am supposed to press on the fret with the very tip of my fingers. however, my nails always get in the way despite the fact that i have trimmed it as short as it can go. i wonder if my nails will 'morph' or develop as i practise more such that it doesn't stick out? i don't really know how to describe it... like even when i trim till the pinkish part, it still gets in the way.

Where are you holding in on the fret?

You are meant to have your finger as high as possible in the fret, without actually touching the upper fretwire e.g. when you are holding in a 1st fret note, your finger should be just before the actual 1st fretwire. Many people play with their fingers in the middle of the fret. This is wrong. More pressure is needed here. The least amount of pressure is needed when you play just behind the upper fretwire.


You said 'i understand that i am supposed to press on the fret with the very tip of my fingers' - could you explain why you should do this?

I'm not saying you shouldn't, but curious as to whether you were taught the correct reason for doing this.

PS if you understand the reason why, then the problem will be solved ;)




With regards to your nails - put your fingers out straight. With a RH finger, touch the end of your finger at a right angle. You should feel skin before you feel nail. If you feel nail, then your nails are too long.
 
hi,

thanks for the advice. =) i shall try out some of the suggestions.

yea i know where to fret and my teacher seems to be extremely strict on posture and position...

fretting with tips of fingers... hm. i assumed that this is so as to not interfere with adjacent strings..

i just realised that me feeling that i am learning really slowly may have something to do with the fact that my teacher is concentrating a lot on plucking and i believe strumming may be easier with a pick? (but he is teaching me the different ways to do it without a pick).

i have upped my practice times to be at least an hour or two a day and my fingers are becoming 'hardy' and stronger. yay!
 
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