How to start playing lead guitar.

izkoh2

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Hi people out there was wondering how to start playing lead guitar. To begin off i have a few questions.

1) is it playing the scale of the chord your are playing to give it some form of melody?

2) Do i simply spam scales and other then pentatonic minor and majors, major scales, what else should i learn?

I have learnt guitar casually for half a year and i know how to play basic rhythmic (read chords and strum away) and some scales and its shapes (min. pentanonic, major pentanonic, major)

Hope some you could explain to me how to get by doing it as it seems really really Fun! :D
 
Well for 1) Yes melodies do come from the scale of the key of the song, or scale of the chord you are on at that point in the song. So essentially, you can use the corresponding scales in whatever context you are in to create melodies.

2) Well in very basic terms yes you can spam out all the scales and modes and shapes you want in a key. And it will sound alright.

Besides scales and modes, there are arpeggios and intervals. Arpeggios are notes in a chord played separately. If you listen to classical and jazz and shred it is featured alot. Intervals are the distance that separates 2 notes from each other. So are C note to a A note is a minor third, or m3, interval. Some people like to colour their playing with sophisticated sounding intervallic playing. Eric Johnson after his pentatonic barrage in the opening solo on Cliffs of Dover is a famous one. Country guys use them alot too.

I presume you know what the modes are. If not, well I'm not that articulate enough to explain it to you. I will try.... The major scale are made up of 7 notes. So in C, its C-D-E-F-G-A-B-C, or 8 notes if you count the octave. For modal playing, each note has a scale that corresponds with the note's colour in regards to the root note. Thats how I feel it is and academics will probably give you a more grounded answer.
So C Major and its relative minor is Aminor right? Well both have the same notes, just starting on a different note. So same notes, same scale right? Right!
So if we move it up to G, which is the 5th of the C scale, you can use C major scale over a G and it will give you the G Mixolydian mode. Ok we will stop right there.

If you play these chords correspondingly, Cmajor, Dmin7, Emin7, F, G7, Amin7, Bm7b5, Cmajor, you will sound pretty awesome right? Because they are the chords that can be found in the C major scale. Play them across the neck, lengthwise. You will discover that even though your playing 8 different chords, they are ALL in one scale.

So 7 notes, 7 modes, 7 different sounds. In C, and now remember this, we are only talking about C, in C, C major is mode 1 or Ionian. D minor is 2 or Dorian, E minor is Phygrian, F major is Lydian, G7 or G dominant is Mixolydian, A minor is Aeolian, Bm7b5 is Locrian.

So!, when you are in E minor jamming, you can play E blues, Eminor or Aeolian, E Phrygrian, E Dorian, E diminished, E harmonic minor, E chromatic.....

Confused? I am. So, if your smarter then the average drummer, E Phrygian can also be seen as a C Major scale, E Aeolian a G major scale, E Dorian a Dmajor scale.

And don't worry if you need to remember all shapes. Because as guitarist, we are all not too bright and quite lazy but want to look flashy. All you need to do is learn a scale shape, and just transpose it appropriately to access the mode.

Do note however this is not the BEST way to learn modes. Because we are guitar players, we just wanna have fun. So this is a fun and easy way to go about it. BUT NOT the best. So if you really want to be good, ignore my post.

And one more trick, if you take a minor pentatonic shape, you realise there are alot of notes your not using inbetween your fingers? Thats where your Phygrian, Dorian, Mixolydian, whatever, are found. Go explore with your hands and ears!
 
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modes are created with the intervals that are unique to them. for example the lydian mode is created with the emphasis placed on the sharp 4th. if you just play the notes that appear in the modal scale itself, you might find that your improvisation in C major sounds no different from your improvisation in F lydian.

modes are complicated, and if you've only started out playing half a year, i wouldn't advise going into them so quickly. so just try to discover things yourself, questions are best answered that way.
 
listen to slash. tts how i started :mrgreen:

Same for me! he slurred notes and I thought he was just using more notes then the pentatonic. Turned out he knew what he was doing. As Zakk Wylde said, just throw something in there!
 
Thanks

Hey just wanted to say thank you (although yeah i am confused abt the modething :)) anyway i guess i should continue my scales first and learn the appregios (if that is how you spell it) thanks anyway. Anymore suggestions please feel free to reply.

Thanks to all.
 
My view is that you should start simply, and you should start with ear training and melodies.

How? Think of some very well known tunes. Happy Birthday To You. Old MacDonald Had a Farm. Jingle Bells.... or whatever. Then try to play those melodies on the guitar, trying out different positions. Keep going until you are happy that you have replicated the melody. Repeat with more well known tunes.

Modes and scales and knowing all the theory and stuff are all excellent things to learn, but when you want to start out learning lead, I think this stuff can wait just a little while (not too long! :)). First get comfortable playing single note lines - later the theory stuff will make more sense.
 
...and then there's transcribing. These days, with tabs and the Web and OLGA and whatnot people don't do enough of this.

Find some music or lead guitar you like. Listen to it a lot until you know how it goes in your head, then try to work it out on the guitar. Repeat. Before long, you will start to see patterns that emerge as scales. Soon you will see that there are a lot of common ideas between players - pentatonics, common keys, common licks, etc. Keep working on new stuff you think is cool gradually moving up to more challenging stuff. Also, while you do this (I made the mistake many years ago of not doing this, for which I have paid the price of trying to catch up) try to figure out the chords beneath the solos or lead lines. This is important - you will start to know *why* certain notes work over the chords below and why others do not.
 
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