Help on strap/position of guitar

[isaaclimx]

Hello guys i am a beginner and have just got my first electric guitar together in a package.
However when i strap it on, the whole guitar neck tilts all the way to near 90 degrees to the ground, have tried to lengthen/shorten the strap but it just tilts down. I find it difficult to play if i have to support the neck all the time.
Can anyone give me some advice?
Mines a SX brand SG shaped guitar no idea what model and im using the strap included.

many thanks

 

[Mukkey]

Depends on what you're comfortable with.

IMO, higher is easier, because most of us practice sitting down, but lower is cooler.

 

[dudelove]

looks like ur guitar is suffering from neck dive. some guitars, which a heavier neck, it really is unavoidable. its a design flaw. maybe u should have tried the guitar with the strap before u bought it.

adjusting the height of strap is going to help only minimally. i think u should get a strap that has lots of friction between the contact of the strap and ur shirt/body. a leather strap might help.

 

[wjl123]

Last resort is to shift the strap pins but make sure you do it right :mrgreen: so that the moments are not unbalanced towards the neck making it tilt down

 

[zax]

sg's always neck dive! just get a leather strap or play catching with it (thats what i do)

 

[MutantBanana]

I think it has something to do with the density of the body wood and the balance.

 

[murf]

my epi lespaul ultra does that. cos of the light body. gotta learn to deal with it or get a new guitar i guess :/

 

[EugeneSmasher]

I think as long as the neck is of a much heavier wood than the body, things like that happen. Best wood for the neck, I'd say, is maple because it's very hard yet very light, and even a basswood or agathis bodied guitar (those are light woods) won't really suffer from neck-dive.

If I'm not wrong most SGs have mahogany necks? Not sure about the SX copy, though, I've tried a Greg Bennett SG and the neck felt more like maple.

 

[isaaclimx]

Thanks guys for the advice ! Seems like forums show more love

 

[neonzap]

HAHAS!!! Lol SG neck dive is common... As in all sg neck dives... It's not much of the wood actually... It's because of the strap button position... You hold the guitar with neck parallel to the ground... You'll realise the position strap button at front and at back is almost parallel to the ground... While take a guitar of other shapes... Same thing, parallel the neck to the ground, the strap button is higher at the front, much high, compared to the back... this difference of angle between two buttons cause the guitar to tilt in the same angle... So if you like SG shape, You'll have to get used to this thingy called neck dives...

 

[zax]

Les pauls by right should not neck dive , I don't know about the cheap copies but Gibsons sure don't . Sg's , Firebirds , Xplorers neckdive . A simple leather strap fixes this problem

 

[syam41]

Not all SG dives. My friend's Epiphone doesnt, but yea, SX ones does. But I think with time, you are going to get used to it. If not, just sell it off. Haha.

 

[zax]

Not all SG dives. My friend's Epiphone doesnt, but yea, SX ones does. But I think with time, you are going to get used to it. If not, just sell it off. Haha.

A typical SG's neck is heavier than the body , so apply some physics and yeah it neck dives , unless your friend's epiphone has a heavier body compared to the neck (which i don't think happens on a Gibson) then yeah it won't dive.