Guitar Music Sense

gyaradozz

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Hihi,

does any1 have any good ideas, methods and ways to recommend me to how can I train my Guitar Music Sense?

i.e. so that I am able to catch the Key, and notes of the songs, and also the chords from any songs I hear from the radio..

Pls help..I am desperate to train this Music Sense..
 
takes lots of practise...

but if u want to do it efficiently, go to a good course which teaches this kinda thing...

maybe yamaha classical guitar course? 5.5 years long
 
haha..

talking about Yamaha.. I was once a student there.. quit already..

anyway, thanks for all your help... anyone have any good books to recommend in this aspect?
 
oh i see... yeah very long... i'm planning to join it but i dunno if i can handle JC work and it at the same time... + i've got NS in 2 years... gotta break :cry:
 
Guitar Sense = Music sense =Musicianship.

Musicianship an be developed. But you must be patient. You can't promulgate a standard operating procedure to train for musicianship. You need time to develop.

Do you have a band?
Do you figure out songs played by other artists in detail?
Why is there a syncropation at this interval?
How does this riff change the sound if it's not there?
Do you ask yourself why this chord is used in this song?
Do you ask why does this chord or scale sound this way?
How will it change if i use some other chord or scale?
What if i turn this Reggae song into Bossanova beat?

You can develop musicianship by learning how other artists write and form a song. And it has to be done in detail ... every chord change, intro, riffs and form of the song. If you hear something diffiferent in verse2 ... dun be lazy .... figure it out and "hear" the difference between verse1 and verse2.

ASK ASK ASK .... always ask yourself alot of questions!

Why did the artist play G/A instead of just A before going to a D Chord?
Why was a Dmaj scale played against an A Chord?
Are there any Chords that are non diatonic to the key? Where?

The most impportant questions!

How does this chord make me feel?
How does this scale or solo makes me feel?
How does this bridge, interval, outtro, pre-chorus, etc make me feel?

By doing that, you are developing a sense of sound recognition that can help you identify the sound of a chord or scale when you hear it again. When your hear can recognise sounds ... and you practice them deligently on your fretboard ... you will be able to play them as you hear it inwardly.

ANOTHER POINT.

Expand your Vocabulary .... if you need explaination for this let me know. I'm writing too much.
 
well .. when you are playing on stage ... especially when improvising ... you dun have time to think about what to play. You need to RESPOND to the music, instead of thinking what to play.

Expanding your vocabulary is like a soldier equipping himself with gadgets and weaponry to get ready for war. The more well equip you are .... the more options you have when playing or even composing.

Vocabulary can mean a few things ...

1) Chords - Expand on Chord knowledge in terms of different keys, tensions, modulation, voicings and inversions. Recognising Chords and progressions helps you in composing and trancription of songs. It helps you understand the music better. Many people might think it's easy to play a pop song. But not many people are aware that pop songs contains typical chords that are Hybrids, altered (jazz) and can appear in very odd timings. Try transcripting a song from Whitney Houston ... sounds simple but more between the eyes.

When playing more complex genres like Jazz or Classical ... chord knowledge is inherent in chord solos. Classical is more compplicated ... it's no longer chords ... but harmony. But dun have to go that far la ... :)

2) Scales - There are 15 main positions of the Major scale that covers the whole fret board. And Scales can be altered like b5+b7 or b13 (melodic minor modes). Scales should be practiced not just linearly but in melodic patterns. Melodic patterns are like Rudiments for a drummer. The more melodic patterns you can play at the back of your hand ... the more Vocab you have for playing!! :)

Ex: instead of playing 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 of a scale. Try playing 1,3,5,2,4,6,3,5,7 or 4,3,2,1,5,4,3,2,6,5,4,3,7,6,5,4. Do this on all shapes. Explore as many patterns as you can ... dun be lazy (again :)) ... play it to the max! If you are willing to go all the way.

Dun forget pentatonic and blues scale ... face melting solos are based on these. FEEL the blues!

3) Rhythm - Learn to jam to as many genres of rhythm as possible. Samba, Funk (especially), Bossa, Swing, Rock, Raggae, Cha cha, Carribean, Blues, etc. Remember this ... a wrong chord or wrong note is NEVER as obvious as a wrong beat! You can play a wrong chord or note and still bluff your way true ... but playing something out of beat you will stand out like an ugly duckling!! Everybody makes mistakes on stage .... but you want to minimise it. Hence the very very foundation of playing is to get your rhythm right! If Rhythm is not consistent ... everything else fails.

And pay special attention to any transitional progressions in a songs when there is odd timing or Syncropaton. Make sure your timing is smack on with your eyes close. The TIGHTNESS of the band depends on how well the band can play their parts together ... not playing the right note or chord ... but the right TIME.

Experiment in time signatures mainly 4/4 and 6/8. If you want further ... you can try 7/4, 5/4, 12/8, 19/16 (it's the weirdest but i heard!!) In case you dun understand ...
4/4 means 4 crochets in a bar.
7/4 means 7 crochets in a bar.
6/8 means 6 quavers in a bar.
19/16 means 19 semi quavers in a bar.

Sigh ok ... i know i talk too much and i am long winded .... whatever it is ... just keep figure out songs ... jam ... play with friends ... ask ask ask ask ask ... and take note of the points i told you when you do these ... you should be able to get your music sense. Well, i am not professional musician ... hence i dun have that kind of time to commit to all that i told ya. But if you really want to achieve ... it's very time consuming and you might have to watch less TV, drink less coffee, watch less movie. It really depends on what you want in life. But whatever it is ... life is good ... do whatever that makes you happy .... ok ok i know .. i will stop nagging ... :?
 
Thanks Guitarman78!!!!

I really appreciate it!

and, NO you are definitely not nagging! Those are to me PRICELESS advice!

ermm.. if I have any questions in the future, will you be around to help and guide me along?

Thanks again!
 
By the way Guitarman78,

your words make me feel you have a great passion for Guitar and music .....

How can it be nagging in the first place?
 
can't la ... i talk cork only la! :) i believe alot of people knows what i know but they are just keeping quiet. I'm like one of the few chatterbox who likes to Kay Poh only .. haha.

but anyway ... ask anything and if i can answer i try my best! :) Have fun!
 
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