Gibson Les paul 2008
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The chambered body is both good and bad , it really takes the weight off a really friggin heavy guitar and it's more acoustically balanced but a lot of people still like the solid mahogany bottom and maple top more . The pickups are friggin cool , bigger neck tennons so there is more wood to wood connection between the neck and the body for better tone i guess . Over all it is a good guitar , it's a Gibson after all and you can't wrong with that .
I've got one. The asymetrical neck is nice. My 2 complains is that like with all other Gibsons - the neck is sticky due to the nitro used. The other one is it doesn't stay in tune that well (even with locking tuners). This is a common problem with Gibsons and is apparently a design flaw. Apart from that the guitar rocks. Quality and finish is really good - but you got to test one for yourself. I heard Gibson QCs are not that good nowadays. Plus shipping in from somewhere else has a risk of the headstock cracking - Gibson's weakest link. I would like to make it clear it does not sound like a hollowbody - has a sound like a Les Paul.
The different features are listed here: Asymetrical Neck, Grover Locking Tuners, Neutrik Locking Jack Chambered Body, Burns Mounted PCB Controls (apparently high quality), chrome parts as opposed to nickel parts, tone pros locking bridges, Jim Dunlop Strap Locks, see through control cavity cover, neck is PLEKed (which is a BIG plus). Apart from that it's pretty standard Les Paul fare.
Here's mine in Honey Burst - I think I got an exceptional top - looks like a Gibson Historic top.
The different features are listed here: Asymetrical Neck, Grover Locking Tuners, Neutrik Locking Jack Chambered Body, Burns Mounted PCB Controls (apparently high quality), chrome parts as opposed to nickel parts, tone pros locking bridges, Jim Dunlop Strap Locks, see through control cavity cover, neck is PLEKed (which is a BIG plus). Apart from that it's pretty standard Les Paul fare.
Here's mine in Honey Burst - I think I got an exceptional top - looks like a Gibson Historic top.
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I've got one. The asymetrical neck is nice. My 2 complains is that like with all other Gibsons - the neck is sticky due to the nitro used. The other one is it doesn't stay in tune that well (even with locking tuners). This is a common problem with Gibsons and is apparently a design flaw. Apart from that the guitar rocks. Quality and finish is really good - but you got to test one for yourself. I heard Gibson QCs are not that good nowadays. Plus shipping in from somewhere else has a risk of the headstock cracking - Gibson's weakest link. I would like to make it clear it does not sound like a hollowbody - has a sound like a Les Paul.
The different features are listed here: Asymetrical Neck, Grover Locking Tuners, Neutrik Locking Jack Chambered Body, Burns Mounted PCB Controls (apparently high quality), chrome parts as opposed to nickel parts, tone pros locking bridges, Jim Dunlop Strap Locks, see through control cavity cover, neck is PLEKed (which is a BIG plus). Apart from that it's pretty standard Les Paul fare.
Here's mine in Honey Burst - I think I got an exceptional top - looks like a Gibson Historic top.
that is a very nice top there bro. *thumbs up* most standards ive seen dont have such flaming.
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if the strings do not travel straight from the nut to the machine head, chances are, tuning stability would be an issue (regardless of the guitar brand name), not so much of a design flaw.
Don't really get what you mean? Almost all guitars strings travel from nut to machine heads. So if I go by your statement above - Gibsons should be very stabile in tuning. Only certain Fenders have string trees for added tension. The design flaw was quoted from John Suhr.
I beg to differ - I've played a number of PRS - and to me it does not have a signature sound by itself. I personally find it lacks "soul". Both Gibsons & Fender has their signature sound. However tone is subjective - so I am sure PRS will sound better to some people than Gibsons - which is cool in my book.
naviros
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I've watched a couple of vids on youtube on it, some sound good, some sound bad... Looks wise I wouldn't fault it, but I believe in testing it rather than importing it, considering how much money will be put into it, and how every single Gibson sounds different from its next twin.
Agreed. Please bear in mind Gibson's QC is still questionable. Just because I own the latest Gisbon 2008 doesn't mean I am going to rave about Gibson. They do make good guitars though. I prefer some objectivity - hence my complain with the tuning
At the price we are paying - I would expect such problems not to be an issue.Definitely different. 24.5/25 scale will never replicate 24.75. Just like a LP Standard would never be a R8.
That being said, there is so much hoohah about all these signature sound over the years that it is getting ridiculous. I would love to see people doing blind test with a nice half stack to see if they can identify which is which. For the record, I have own/owned all 3 brands so I'm not bias towards any brand. Brand loyalty is a misnomer if you ask me.
PRS tone lacks soul? I'm sure Santana will agree.
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PRS is not a total departure from the Gibson tone, Paul Reed Smith himself started off as a Gibson tinkerer. his aim was not to de-Gibson his products but to further what he likes which has a Les Paul fundamental.
i like the average PRS for its clarity.
i like the average PRS for its clarity.
jameshetfieldkirkhammet
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sorry for hijacking..
was wondering if anyone owns/owned the VOS gibson. i know the differences etc etc. but I'm just curious...
how does it feel? what are your opinions on it? how different is it? feel... tone.. playability... etc etc
where did u get it from and how much. lawl.
thanks!
was wondering if anyone owns/owned the VOS gibson. i know the differences etc etc. but I'm just curious...
how does it feel? what are your opinions on it? how different is it? feel... tone.. playability... etc etc
where did u get it from and how much. lawl.
thanks!
Definitely different. 24.5/25 scale will never replicate 24.75. Just like a LP Standard would never be a R8.
That being said, there is so much hoohah about all these signature sound over the years that it is getting ridiculous. I would love to see people doing blind test with a nice half stack to see if they can identify which is which. For the record, I have own/owned all 3 brands so I'm not bias towards any brand. Brand loyalty is a misnomer if you ask me.
PRS tone lacks soul? I'm sure Santana will agree.
You are right - there has been much hoohah over signature sounds. There has been also a number of hoohah over certain guitars which looks more for display cases than playing. Nothing wrong with that just that the hoohah goes both ways.
However given a blind test - I can determine which is a LP sound - which is a strat sound, which is a Tele sound - almost all of the time. That doesn't make me some kind of expert though - I am just able to distinguish it. Not too sure with PRS though - I have been unable to recognise a signature sound from it - aprt from Santana. To be frank, (and I may get flak for it) I think Santana's signature sound comes a lot more from his fingers and the Dumble amps that he uses. Most PRSes does have a modern flavour to it - but still a high quality Ibanez / Musicman can sound very similiar. So I don't know if it's hype or not - but I can identify certain guitars and can't do so for some other guitars.
One thing I really like about PRSes is the quality of the build. Even the SE series blows out some of the Gibson's QC I've seen. I have no loyalty to any brand - I just play what sounds good to my ears. However like I said - tone is subjective - so some people may very much prefer the tone of PRS guitars compared to Gibsons. I do intend to try the PRS DGT - I heard they are very nice - just will have to wait for my next trip overseas.
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BLACK-13
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guys......... does any of u know what pick ups the guy using on his les paul ?
thks a million
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gZOeAegQmc&feature=related
thks a million
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gZOeAegQmc&feature=related
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so do many other guitars in this ilk. it's ultimately what it's used for; the furtherance of the users' intentions. Gibson/ PRS/ Fender have their influences in both extremes: jazz to black metal.
xklusivly4u
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I played many Gibson LPs and PRS in many shops many times and come out of the shop without buying one because I couldn’t decide. My last try was Gibson LP classic/standards and PRS singlecut and yes Gibson LP has “signature tone” especially plug in to a tube amp without any effect. So I bought Gibson LP back although PRS plays a lot nicer (don’t flame me, I came from Ibanez) then guitar had hum problem. You can imagine how I feel. I had a second thought to exchange with PRS but the shop doesn’t have singlecut with stoptail and birds (sorry, PRS must have birds, just personal preference). It is not fair to generalize but Gibson has serious QC issue and I want a PRS 