difference between condensers

kahuna

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hi may i know wads the diff between pencil condensers and normal condensers?comparin the CO1 and CO2 by samson
 
the main difference is the Diaphragm size

pencil type will have small diaphragm = quicker respond = maybe more accurate translation of what you hear

larger diaphragm = slower respond = maybe smoother respond

then again ... above doesn't hold true for all mikes
some can be large diaphragm and fast responding
and vice versa

Usually large diaphragm = more expensive tooo
 
I think another common interpretation is that large diaphragm has got better bass response and small diaphragm has got better treble response.

It is usually the case in the recording industry that mics used on bass instruments are large diaphragm; in applications where good freq response for high-frequencies are needed, small diaphragms are used. e.g. pencil condensers on drum overheads (more for getting character on the cymbals than the kick).

It's not gospel, but we still see most people do it. I am still yet to see anyone use a pencil condenser on a kick drum or bass cabinet, but that of course could be due to the fragile nature of the pencils under such high SPL.
 
ratboy is right, if you get a large diaphragm mic you have a wider range of usage. Get one with a selectable polar pattern switch so you can get your high and low frequencies for multi purpose recording. For a microphone with a low price range you may consider brands like studio projects or AKG.
 
AKG has the XII mics i think ... that has 4 switchable polar patterns for you to use. pretty versatile ...
 
so for overhead pencil is better?cos i borrowed my frens CO1U condenser and tried usin as overhead the kick sound like a torn speaker
 
nvm its ok already haha lol thanks guys...i dunno wad i did wanted to do the test record today than ok,but got a new prob :lol: now the only way to hear my recording is when i put my volume to max...it didnt happen before so wad cld the prob b?
 
ok so now another question is usin sm57s for individual drums or the samson 5/7piece drum mic kit better for drum mikin?
 
in terms of budget wise :
http://www.sweelee.sg/productlist.asp?CatSID=168

$355 for 5 mics. thats $70 per mic.

SM57s cost about $120 brand new i think.

it's all budget talk. if you're considering samson mics you might as well consider Behringer ( http://www.behringer.com/XM1800S/index.cfm?lang=eng) , or the more well known Audix Fusion 7 (I had it last time, www.audixusa.com)

i can only tell you mics in general are like knifes. they perform the same general purpose to cut/stab/slice. end result : kill.
but who kills most efficient? some newbie doing home recording can have the "industry standard forged knife" but may not be killing as efficiently as someone highly experienced using a cheap DIY sculpted wood knife.
and yet another newbie with industry standard mic can't mic as well any of the above mentioned. but his (after recording process) mixing excels all.

so in general if I were you, I'd get the samson if your wallet isn't fat.

20¢ worth
 
o ok thanks i was tinkin of the sm-57 cos ppl tell me to use it but i was tink "wldnt using proper drum mics b better?" haha thanks blueprintstudios for the quick replies and the volume prob is still there...btw how much is the audix mics?
 
you can check on ebay for audix fusion 7.

as for sound.. hmm. you might wanna check your recording volume etc already. i wouldn't be sure.
 
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