61 key weighted keyboard?

brokenchord

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Guys,

Is there such a model? Not the 'semi-weighted' type but a fully weighted 61 key keyboard/piano. For the portability, of course.
 
Not that I know of. But there is a 49-key hammer action weighted keyboard by Fatar (VMK-149). If you wait for a while, they may come up with a hammer action 61 key.

Alternatively you may want to contact Doepfer to build one yourself. Deopfer has a lot of DIY keyboard/ midi controller stuffs. Their keyboards are all 88 keys (I believe the keys are from Fatar too). But since Fatar don't let you build your own modular keyboards, Doepfer may offer that possibility if you try to contact them. Their website did not say anything about building modular weighted keyboards, but you can give it a shot.
 
i'm not sure about the portability part. a weighted 61 is definitely still going to weigh a fair bit. to me the cheapest solution - PRACTICE and learn how to play everything on non-weighted action.

which brings me on a tangent here, but i've noticed a trend among youngsters nowadays and i feel impelled to say this; more gear, complicated advanced gear, or custom made gear should never be regarded as a solution to one's lack of a particular skill. every piece of equipment has its shortcomings, eventually u'll find this guitar or keyboard suitable for this, but not suitable for that. and the hunt for the "right" piece of gear never ends.
 
While I agree that a keyboardist should be versatile on all kinds of keyboards, I disagree about the search for the best - even a custom keyboard. The reason for the possibility of a "custom keyboard" is not about finding a solution to fill in a gap in technique and skill but to fulfill a particular need of a keyboardist which tend to be rather personal.

A keyboardist differs from other instrumentalist in that he plays more than one "instrument" - so different functions of the keyboard helps in his everyday playing (or for me - sequencing as well). I may not need a breath-controller input, but faders are indispensable. Although I can use both mod wheel and joystick controllers, I still prefer the mod wheels for controlling samples because of the way the crossfading are programmed. Although weighted and semi-wieghted keys are both OK for me, weighted keys give me more control and expression on piano sounds while the unweighted gives me more control on Hammond type of sounds. It is difficult to play repeated demisemiquavers on a single note fast on a weighted keyboard (fingering 4,3,2,4,3,2,4,3,2 etc), a technique which is commonly used when playing the Hammond. These are all pretty individualised. So instead of having a load-full (or a room-full) of gears to fit all the needs of a keyboardist, why not have just one keyboard that has all the functions that keyboardist need and nothing that he doesn't need?

So, I believe that a keyboardist should be versatile. In fact, I try to get used to different types of keyboards (Korg, Yamaha, Roland, Kurzweil, Alesis, also different models) because sometimes I need to play them "on the spot" and don't have time to figure out how to call up a patch (depending on where I'm required to play them). But that shouldn't stop us from finding one that suits just us. Actually, I'm speaking more in terms of sequencing and programming than just live playing since we want ergonomics so as not to waste time and to quicken our work process.

Just my two cents.
 
61-key weighted keys piano

I remember Roland release a model 61-keys weighted hammer-action keys MIDI synth with the Sound Canvas engine. Probably that is in the late 90s?

Yamaha did release some YPP-xx series 61-keys weighted hammer-action piano with MIDI but only with standard piano sounds.
 
Re: 61-key weighted keys piano

That's very interesting! The Roland 61-key I know of are all semi-weighted.
 
I wonder what is the reason why weighted actions are always for 88 keys only.
Is it that piano players really really require all 88 keys & a 61 key model has not demand?
 
When you play weighted keyboards, you are usually a pianist and you'll probably will be playing piano sounds mostly. In this case, you'll probably need 88 keys - the range of a piano. 61 keys doesn't give you full range of a piano - doesn't quite help much if you want to play piano on only 61 keys. That's why I thought Fatar's decision to come up with a 49key weighted keyboard to be something really wierd - couldn't understand their logic there.

Even for 61 keys, hard to play full piano on it. If portability is an issue (ie weight), the M-audio Keystation Pro88 is a fully weighted 88 keys controller which is really light. Perhaps you should consider that for portability.
 
Re: 61-key weighted keys piano

Hi ALL,

I think this is the 61-key Roland keyboard I'm talking about, check this out!

http://www.edirol.com/products/info/archive/sk50.html



Someone selling it sometime ago:

Date posted : 30 May 2005
Roland SK50 sound canvas keyboard for sale.
Very good bargain,only $250! Excellent condition.Tel 90929917 Jon
Email:Jon@hotmail.com
sk50.gif
 
wow! bongman never fails to amaze me. with both his arsenal of gear and the knowledge of them!

eh? cheez, that doesn't sound like a disagreement to me. more like an elaboration of my sentiments exactly, albeit in the context that i did not intend originally.
 
iansoh said:
wow! bongman never fails to amaze me. with both his arsenal of gear and the knowledge of them!
Thank you for the compliment, just trying to help whoever needs any.
I think I'm infected with gear lust than gear expertise, it's time I stop shopping and dig into the details of my gear. Music playing has always been comfortable for me but not so on technical.

I haven't been active on the technical threads because you guys are way ahead. Tonight I'm gonna pack up the EX7 and put the EX5R in the rack, replace the EX7 with my SP300, so I can start really digging into scenes...
 
I think I'm infected with gear lust than gear expertise, it's time I stop shopping and dig into the details of my gear

Maybe someone should start a new topic about listing all the keyboard gear that each of us have. It'll be cool to know what kind of gears local keyboardists have, given the fact that here in Singapore, there isnt a wide range of brands and models that are readily available unlike elsewhere in the world.
 
LuZeR said:
I think I'm infected with gear lust than gear expertise, it's time I stop shopping and dig into the details of my gear
Maybe someone should start a new topic about listing all the keyboard gear that each of us have. It'll be cool to know what kind of gears local keyboardists have, given the fact that here in Singapore, there isnt a wide range of brands and models that are readily available unlike elsewhere in the world.
what else could there be?

Yamaha
Roland
Korg
Alesis
Kurzweil
Emu
Ensoniq
Clavi Nord
Kawai
Technics
Fatar
M-Audio
Akai
.........

oh yes almost forget, our national brand CREATIVE Prodikeys !
 
Hi IAN,
you have over-praise me?!
I have some gear but not a showroom!

Sunday I'm going KL to get a Roland W30,
Prodigy LiamHowlett fave synth wkstn/sampler,
I'm gonna make some mid-90s style electronica muzic !?

Looks like this gear lust is hard to cure!
 
aaron said:
bongman said:
halo Chordal,
the Yamaha 61-key keyboard with weighted keys is

Yamaha YPP-15 Electone with MIDI
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA...00%26VNM%3DLIVE%26AFLG%3DY%26LGFL%3DY,00.html

Are the above 2 mentioned keyboards really with weighted keys? or just full keys like Yamaha DGX series? The yamaha specs only mentioned its full keys with touch response, didnt mention hammer action.

Anyone knows?

bong? u saw tis query? im just curious too..
 
Yea there are many brands especially the "bigger" ones like Yamaha, Roland and Korg. But does distributors here sells the rack versions (like MotifES rack) or expandable plug-in cards (Yamaha XGs or Roland's SRXs)?

I should correct myself. I should've said: "local distributors doesnt cover the whole product line of a brand"

I mean if a $4000+ Yamaha MotifES can be sold here, why not a Kurzweil's K2600X? Not bashing anyone here tho lol....just expressing my opinions on "limited readily available models". Cuz, if the products are readily available, then it's much easier to check them out and decide for ourselves if that's the product we want. Oh, and correct me if im wrong.......cuz if they are readily available, i wanna check them out asap!!! lol

Emu, Ensoniq, Clavi Nord, Fatar?????!!?!? WHERE?!?!? let me know bongman, im interested!!

And prodikeys? errrmmmmmmmm......... :roll: lol
 

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